All I can tell you is good luck and who ever does the repairs should charge you about 10hr labor plus parts if that helps. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=153. Should I be worried? I am not sure what changes were made for the US, but perhaps whatever these were contribute to the failure? “Right, not the best parts description; the central valves also serve as the fastener for the camshaft sprockets. Seems high to just diagnose it ? Kindest regards, Stephen. Same issue here with Timing Chain on 328i. Lol,,,,the high pressure fuel pumps were a joke. Took it back to BMW Aus to ask them again, they’ve done their test and have said yes it is the timing chain. Tell them to check the timing chain for any whine issue or possible problem that the timing chain has been known for. did you hear of any engine damage because of this issue. One never knows exactly how the timing chain debacle will resolve itself… I have faith that BMW will correct this problem with a favorable notice of extended warranty. My VIN shows that it is a “Hot-climate version” (S823A Heissland-Ausführung) here in the US and delivered to a dealership in North Carolina. Thanks for the video,,,,yes that whine noise is the start of the timing chain going bad, you mean the high frequently whine noise? which car would be best to buy, since I’ve have read there is an upgraded part that BMW has. Correct the valves are used to tighten the vanos units,,,,,and they are one time tighten torque. Same engine, Same problems should be same solution…. Only problem is mine just hit 73k so I'm still screwed if my timing chain decides to fault. The whine noise has been going on for quite some time and tonight while driving it was really apparent with the music turned off. Talked with Class Action Attorney Joe S. his web site is : BMW engine failure class action.com – I told him that I was not experiencing problems as of yet but I would like the assurance’s of an extended warranty on N20 Engine failure that includes 100% cost of labor plus materials , period. If they won’t, try and get a cost for doing the work and using that to bargain against the price? N20 AND N26 ENGINE TIMING CHAIN AND OIL PUMP DRIVE CHAIN: LIMITED WARRANTY EXTENSION TO 7 YEARS/70,000 MILES New information provided by this revision is preceded by this symbol . i just purchased a 2014 328i with 38K miles on it… I don’t hear a whine but is it something I should always keep an eye out for in the future or are 2014 models not affected? what can I do to prevent this from happening to me? Having purchased the car as a second hand vehicle FROM the dealer I would have expected the car to have been of a high standard, not moments away from catastrophic engine failure :(. Would you let them fix the motor or request a new one? It probably a good idea to replace them now ,,,,cleaning doesn’t always work. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Its a 2013 N20 X3. It disappeares after the first minute, but not completely. In your opinion, is the car worth going for or am I setting myself up for a number of issues. I have a 2013 328i xdrive with the N20 engine from BMW NA. I’m still planning on purchasing an extended warranty but would like to know if I should keep an eye out for this problem in the future still or are the 2014’s not affected? $180.00 is a hell of a lot cheaper than $12-20K Wilmington BMW and I’m sure your dealer will gouge you also. however this sound i thought was normal for this car model. where are you based out of..maybe I can drive to you!!? I am certain my 2012 BMW 328i is experiencing this same issue. I still will probably purchase an extended warranty on it though. Attorney handling cases in CA & NJ is Joe Santoli (email@example.com, 1-800-279-6996). I just purchased a 2014 328i with 38K miles on it and the same day of purchase I brought it to my local BMW dealer to have a complete inspection performed. Just wondering what I can do to reduce the likelihood of a serious engine problem. Would be interesting to know, what the reason is for this noise, the chain, the sprockets or the guides. Hi Bimmertech, I have a 2012 528i I received the extended warranty letter in December. The question I have concerns my Bmw 2013 550i Gt with X drive. ELW is BMW information bulletin,,,,why do you ask. BMW are not interested in offering any support despite this being a well documented known fault on N57 & M57 engines. Learn how your comment data is processed. How common are these failures? Also so we’re on the same page I’m in kilometres not in miles. how many hours does it take to break it apart? So it is possible that BMW AUS hasn’t heard of it. Yes I would be concerned . BMW N20 Timing Chain a Helpful Guide to Questions and Answers Posted on October 8, 2019 October 17, 2019 by firstname.lastname@example.org People want to know some common basic questions, when they find out that there BMW may have a timing chain issue. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. The mechanic at the main dealer said they were used to doing these.. Buy a diesel 4 or 6 cylinder BMW at your peril! ( Log Out / Couple months ago I got a letter about the 7 yr/70,000 mile limited warranty extension on ‘Timing chain and Oil pump drive chain’. I would look at anything from 2015 and 2016 if you can. Really annoying that a part thats not meant to be changed is failing prematurely. I think I’m getting two new chains, new housings and an oil pump. I would go to a dealership bigger shop with more information.,,,,it is a big job. 2012 528i xdrive 71k miles Anyone get this? Regards. Carfax shows timing chain and engine replaced in 09/2015. Most commonly produced between 6/2011 to 2/2015. I don’t mind doing the maintenance ahead of time.? Also If the timing chain broke and cause other damage, would the engine damage be covered with the extended timing chain warranty? Fortunately I have Geico MBI. I sincerely hope that it is only a small percentage of N20s affected and for those that do have failures, the fix is permanent. I found it odd that the quote also had both the VANOS Central valves replaced part # 11367583820. 2013 N20 and N26 timing chain should be covered 7 years/70000 miles by BMWNA. I am not aware of any problems with the car, but what symptoms should I look for? I think some people have tried a class action suit,,,,,but I don’t think anything came of it. Would it be an issue because I have 85k miles? thanks. Does anyone have an estimate of the cost to have this preventative repair work done at a BMW dealership? Your best thing is to probably just walk away from that car,,,,find yourself a newer model with less miles would be a better car for you. My plan is to bring car in and authorize diagnostics, and see if the tech can find any issue. I’m still within 7/70k extended warranty. I’d say the noise is still there, but at 10 to 20% of the original volume. Much appreciate you response. There is a thread on another forum that BMWNA now has 7-yr/70k extended limited warranty on timing chain and drive chain for oil pump for N26(and probably N20 too). This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It costs nothing Good question,,,,I don’t know if it is global,,,,I have heard some problems in Germany and Australia. My car had the whine of doom, BMW Australia said the car was fine so at the next service i took it to an Independent BMW tech who told me that it was most likely the timing chain. Class reps are eligible for incentive awards commonly awarded by the Courts of $15-20k. New part has much stronger spring. In Short YES! I just bought a 2013 bmw 528xi and reading this got me soo paranoid. Thank you in advance for your help. I know that there is updated version of this part, 11318685091. Does this take 4 hours to tear down and get to the timing chain and oil pump chain just to check? that risky huh, such as shame as a nice car otherwise. I know the consensus is don’t buy a bmw out of warranty. And they are. I would gladly do all of the work if someone just points out exactly what I need to do. Even now the dealer is claiming to have “never seen or heard of the issue before”, these documents make that extremely hard to believe. ( Log Out / If anyone reading this has any information or knows of a mechanic in Orlando, Florida who would help me, please reach out with a comment below! BMW has talked about it,,,,but I don’t think it will happen. Had it towed to my local BMW dealership. It more of a piece of mind,,,,get the VIN number off that car and have it checked by the dealer,,,some years and models the timing chain has a extended warranty ,,,,maybe that cat is covered then you don’t have to worry about it. I hope it works out for you,,,,it’s not a easy job,,the valve cover and oil pan has to be removed from the engine. Would you say that there can be a relationship to this service bulletin? BMW wants to charge 1000.00 for labor . Thank you for getting back to me, I just checked the history because I do have it and indicates that the crankcase lines were changed on the vehicle and the spark plugs were done at 38,000 kilometres. Note: They wont detect a timing chain issue, it will fail no matter how many times you have it tested. I had a mph dependent high pitched whine in my 2015 xdrive 28i e84 that they replaced the transfer case to fix. I’m pleased with the customer service I received! The service advisor told me this work takes about 24 hours but he would knock the price down to 20 hours to help with cost…parts were a grand total of $869.95 (including oil change).
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